eNCA

“The number that worries me today is 5% or to be exact 4.9% and we're all going to take a collective tear and a sigh of sadness.”

“There is no confidence in black coaches in South African rugby. [It's] window dressing of some of the top franchises in this country.”

“In a world which is race blind or in which there's no discrimination, you ought to find that there would be no difference between the rates of fraud between black and white practitioners. And if there is a difference, then you have to try and think about what the possible explanations were.”

“If South Africa were a person, she'd be knee high in credit card debt and very expensive debt.”

“I categorically deny that I have ever received, solicited or accepted any form of gratification, inducement, benefit or kickback from Madala for any other person from any other person. Any suggestion to the contrary is false, unfounded and devoid of any factual basis.”

“SS9 does not instruct you to implement the deactivation. It doesn't. On any construction, it doesn't. If that instruction was ever given by the national commissioner, it's contained somewhere else and you are free to refer us to that. But we can't keep doing this where you're insisting that the national commissioner told me to implement the deactivation and he did that in SS9. It doesn't.”